From: Alan Friedman <alan@greatarrow.com>

Date: April 22, 2005 3:40:57 PM MDT

To: Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Astro_IIDC] Alignment


Hi Milton -


From the images, the new version seems to be a real improvement.


Having no idea what is involved in writing a complex piece of software, would it not be possible to have a user interface to the fine alignment routine? Drawing a selection box, or at least positioning the box if the dimensions are to be a set size. 


I get such different results depending on what section I choose for alignment - I can't imagine not having this option. 


Two other quick questions -


what is a centroid?


what does HTH  stand for?


best -

Alan



On Apr 22, 2005, at 5:00 PM, milton_aupperle wrote:



Hi Folks;


After listening to feedback on the alignment issue in Astro IIDC beta

2.0 from Alan and other, I think I've come up with a better

methodology than previous.


Alignment of images is a "tricky" thing to say the least - especially

with atmospheric (turbulence, clouds, fog, birds, helicopters,

satellites etc.) and scope movement (poor tracking, ground movement,

wind movement etc.) mucking it all up.


When Astro IIDC does it's alignment, it calculates a centroid using

various methods for each frame. The centroid calculation is usally

good enough to get it down to +/-  a few pixels, but that isn't good

enough. So we also do a pixel by pixel comparison against a small

32x32 (1024 ) pixel image in the  "master" frame and the rest of the

frames within a 64x64 (4096) pixel pixel search area. That works out

to 134,217,728 pixel comparions for each image processed.


The problem that Alan and others has been having is caused by how the

area is selected for the 32x32 pixel block in the "master" image. The

old method would simply use the centroid as the starting point for the

32x32 pixel block. However that may or may not contain any real image

information , like a planetary edge, ring edge or a crater edge etc.

So the new method does a search on the first frame to locate an area

of maximum contrast and then uses that as a comparator from then on.


To see the difference check out "Alignment.jpg" in the new "Other"

folder which shows the new and old alignment methods. For objects with

definite edges (like craters, ring edges) it can do a much better job

- but for diffuse gas bags like Jupiter, it probably won't make much

difference.


HTH..


Milton Aupperle







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