From: Milton Aupperle <milton@outcastsoft.com>
Date: May 9, 2005 3:06:33 PM MDT
To: Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Astro_IIDC] Re: Which Astroiidc option best?
Hi Tim;
On 9-May-05, at 2:50 PM, Tim wrote:
Hi Milton:
I may have misunderstood your earlier response to my query about which cameras were
compatible, as I misunderstood that this website you referred to wasn't talking specifically
about astroiidc compatibility:
http://www.tele.ucl.ac.be/PEOPLE/DOUXCHAMPS/ieee1394/cameras/
That is a list of FireWire cameras, some of which are not even IIDC compliant - so it has nothing to do with what Astro IIDC 1.0 supports.
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So, assuming it won't work
it won't, but you can use it with iChat or BTVPro...
and I do eventually buy one we know is compatible, what are
your thoughts about the download/lisence options?
If you plan on using a camera with multiple Macs, then probably best is to register the camera. In your situation you want to be able to use multiple Macs and multiple cameras, and we don't allow both - you can choose one or the other.
HTH..
Milton J. Aupperle
President
ASC - Aupperle Services and Contracting
Mac Software (Drivers, Components and Application) Specialist
#1005 - 815 14th Avenue. S.W.
Calgary Alberta Canada T2R0N5
1-(403)-229-9456
milton@outcastsoft.com
www.outcastsoft.com
-Tim.
--- In Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com, Milton Aupperle <milton@o...> wrote:
> Tim;
>
> On 9-May-05, at 12:12 PM, Tim wrote:
>
> > Milton:
> >
> > Well, I bid on another firewire webcam on ebay and got it this time.
> > It should arrive in a
> > few days. It's an Aplux, the model that looks like the Unibrain
> > Fire-i. Price was "way right"
> > so I couldn't resist. I like that I can daisychain firewire cameras
> > in case I want one on a
> > guidescope or finder at some point.
>
> I think you made a mistake here on that camera.
>
> As I've said in the past if the camera is NOT listed on the Astro IIDC
> home page
>
> http://www.outcastsoft.com/ASCASTROIIDC.html
>
> -------------From the WebSite Site --------------
> Supports the following inexpensive IIDC / DCAM FireWire cameras, listed
> by manufacturer and camera model:
> ADS Pyro (API-200 to API-203 Series)
> Orange Micro iBot
> iREZ Stealth
> Unibrain Fire-i Color
> Unibrain Fire-i400 Color
> Unibrain Fire-i400 Monochrome
> Unibrain Fire-i Board Camera Color
> Unibrain Fire-i Board Camera Monochrome
> The Imaging Source DMK 21F04
> The Imaging Source DFK 21F04
> The Imaging Source DMM 21F04
> The Imaging Source DFM 21F04
> The Imaging Source DMM 21F04-ML
> The Imaging Source DFM 21F04-ML
> The Imaging Source DBK 21F04
> The Imaging Source DBM 21F04
> The Imaging Source DBM 21F04-ML
>
> NOTE: If your camera is not on the list it will not be recognized and
> is not currently supported. Apple's iSight will never be supported as
> it lacks some of the IIDC modes we need and is not capable of doing
> extended CCD exposure times.
> ------------------------
>
> as a supported camera, then it is not supported. Regardless of what it
> looks like externally, the internals (i.e. firmware, internal
> identifiers, configrom and controller chips used) of the camera are
> unknown and if they are "unknown" it's NOT supported.
>
> For example, Point Grey Research produces the FireFly which similar to
> the Unibrain, TIS, iBot etc cameras (of course it's way more expensive
> having a metal case and a real C/CS-Mount) but it IS NOT compatible
> with Astro IIDC and will NEVER work. They use the same chip sets as
> the others, but they have "tweaked" some of their components very
> differently and so you can't do extended exposures to 1 second, you
> can't extract Bayer video out of it, you can't control it at all.
>
> I can guaranty that if we have not tested the web cams ones then the
> camera will NEVER even be recognized as attached with Astro IIDC 1.0x.
> Astro IIDC 2.0 (still in beta testing) will recognize more (higher end)
> IIDC/DCAM cameras - but not more cheap IIDC webcams. Since due to "Home
> Land Security" red-tape for all products crossing the Canadian - USA
> border, it now costs me $150CDN to receive and return "free" cameras,
> we don't support anything that is left of center.
>
> HTH..
>
> Milton J. Aupperle
> President
> ASC - Aupperle Services and Contracting
> Mac Software (Drivers, Components and Application) Specialist
> #1005 - 815 14th Avenue. S.W.
> Calgary Alberta Canada T2R0N5
> 1-(403)-229-9456
> milton@o...
> www.outcastsoft.com
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