From: Milton Aupperle <milton@outcastsoft.com>

Date: September 23, 2007 11:32:29 AM MDT

To: Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Astro_IIDC] Quicktime Question


Hi Don;


I may have over reacted to that issue, however the initial reports posted by people on various Mac sites were pretty alarming (i.e. all Rosetta Apps would not launch after it was installed which is a catastrophic problem in my books). And since you can't really uninstall / re-install QuickTime, there is no going back to an earlier version. And yes, there are procedures to use tools to extract just the QuickTime 7.1.6 package , however your doing meatball surgery on OSX to achieve this (dragging some file / frameworks / components the trash and replacing them with older files / frameworks / components form previous QuickTime versions) and if you screw up, you have a non booting system.


It appears to affect only some Mac Intels. On our own Mac x86 boxes I don't have one case of it happening here and no one els has reported it either. The issue seems to be a CFM  binding and permissions issue which wreaks havoc on the PowerPC CFM in Rosetta and just re-running the pre-binding command from the terminal.app has solved it for most people:


http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306043


To prevent it you should always quit any open applications, haxies , widgets before installing any system installs. As a matter of prophylactic behavior, I normally run disk first aid to ensure the boot / OSX partition is healthy and fix all permission errors. Then I run "MacJanitor" to clean up all the log files, then run "Cache Out X" to dispose of all cache files, then I manually remove two "Extensions.xxx" files (which have cached extensions and driver info),  then I re-boot the Mac to ensure nothing is left running and then I run the updaters. Then I run disk first aid again to fix all permissions as they are usually broken after each OS X update (usually iTunes related). Then I repeat this behavior on all my other Macs and that's pretty well my entire day "shot" to keep my Macs up to date. And I have various partitions and external hard drives with different OS X .x variants too.


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As to QuickTime re-installs. Apple does not even provide re-installers to us Alpha / Beta QuickTime testers to use either. So before I install a new Alpha version for testing, I boot off another OS X partition, erase the entire partition that the test OSX system was installed on, then use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy this booted OSX install onto the other partition and then boot off the other partition. After that I install the QuickTime Alpha on the OSX Partition. And of course, you can't do e-mail or any correspondence on that Mac while testing because you lose all your changes each time you do a new "QuickTime Install". So if your wondering why QuickTime is so buggy, it's because of this draconian idiocy and their inability to make an uninstaller, so that people can't be bothered to go through all these steps with all their applications / components and do day to day testing. And the Windows XP and Vista guys simply run a System Wide uninstaller to get back to a clean system, where as Apple won't do that for OS X. They did make an QuickTime uninstaller script, however Apple states it isn't reliable and could corrupt the entire OS X system (so it's useless) and still recommend you do the re-install OS X for each new Alpha. The joys of being a developer..

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Hope That Helps..


Milton J. Aupperle

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On 23-Sep-07, at 8:45 AM, Don Singer wrote:


Milton et al:


I will be registering AstroIIDC this week to really put it through

it's paces (have booted it up and that works:). I have read places

that Quicktime 7.2 and AstroIIDC do not dance well.


Well, I have 7.2 installed on my machine, and installed the Quicktime

7.2 Compatability update Apple distributed about 10 days ago.


So, will I have to install an older version of Quicktime and, if so,

where do I get that?


Thanks,

Don