From: "Don Singer" <don@singerspdx.com>

Date: September 24, 2007 7:44:36 AM MDT

To: Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: Quicktime Question

Wow!!!! Thanks for the explanation Milton...I followed most, but not

all:). Loved your RANT....every profession has it's hard points, and

this one seems to be a good one.

Will get it going this week.

Cordially,

Don

--- In Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com, Milton Aupperle <milton@...> wrote:

Hi Don;

I may have over reacted to that issue, however the initial reports  

posted by people on various Mac sites were pretty alarming (i.e. all  

Rosetta Apps would not launch after it was installed which is a  

catastrophic problem in my books). And since you can't really  

uninstall / re-install QuickTime, there is no going back to an  

earlier version. And yes, there are procedures to use tools to  

extract just the QuickTime 7.1.6 package , however your doing  

meatball surgery on OSX to achieve this (dragging some file /  

frameworks / components the trash and replacing them with older  

files / frameworks / components form previous QuickTime versions) and  

if you screw up, you have a non booting system.

It appears to affect only some Mac Intels. On our own Mac x86 boxes I  

don't have one case of it happening here and no one els has reported  

it either. The issue seems to be a CFM  binding and permissions issue  

which wreaks havoc on the PowerPC CFM in Rosetta and just re-running  

the pre-binding command from the terminal.app has solved it for most  

people:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306043

To prevent it you should always quit any open applications, haxies ,  

widgets before installing any system installs. As a matter of  

prophylactic behavior, I normally run disk first aid to ensure the  

boot / OSX partition is healthy and fix all permission errors. Then I  

run "MacJanitor" to clean up all the log files, then run "Cache Out  

X" to dispose of all cache files, then I manually remove two  

"Extensions.xxx" files (which have cached extensions and driver  

info),  then I re-boot the Mac to ensure nothing is left running and  

then I run the updaters. Then I run disk first aid again to fix all  

permissions as they are usually broken after each OS X update  

(usually iTunes related). Then I repeat this behavior on all my other  

Macs and that's pretty well my entire day "shot" to keep my Macs up  

to date. And I have various partitions and external hard drives with  

different OS X .x variants too.

<RANT_TIME>

As to QuickTime re-installs. Apple does not even provide re- 

installers to us Alpha / Beta QuickTime testers to use either. So  

before I install a new Alpha version for testing, I boot off another  

OS X partition, erase the entire partition that the test OSX system  

was installed on, then use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy this booted OSX  

install onto the other partition and then boot off the other  

partition. After that I install the QuickTime Alpha on the OSX  

Partition. And of course, you can't do e-mail or any correspondence  

on that Mac while testing because you lose all your changes each time  

you do a new "QuickTime Install". So if your wondering why QuickTime  

is so buggy, it's because of this draconian idiocy and their  

inability to make an uninstaller, so that people can't be bothered to  

go through all these steps with all their applications / components  

and do day to day testing. And the Windows XP and Vista guys simply  

run a System Wide uninstaller to get back to a clean system, where as  

Apple won't do that for OS X. They did make an QuickTime uninstaller  

script, however Apple states it isn't reliable and could corrupt the  

entire OS X system (so it's useless) and still recommend you do the  

re-install OS X for each new Alpha. The joys of being a developer..

</RANT_TIME>

Hope That Helps..

Milton J. Aupperle

President

ASC - Aupperle Services and Contracting

Mac Software (Drivers, Components and Application) Specialist

#1005 - 815 14th Avenue. S.W.

Calgary Alberta T2R0N5

1-(403)-229-9456

milton@...

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On 23-Sep-07, at 8:45 AM, Don Singer wrote:

Milton et al:

I will be registering AstroIIDC this week to really put it through

it's paces (have booted it up and that works:). I have read places

that Quicktime 7.2 and AstroIIDC do not dance well.

Well, I have 7.2 installed on my machine, and installed the Quicktime

7.2 Compatability update Apple distributed about 10 days ago.

So, will I have to install an older version of Quicktime and, if so,

where do I get that?

Thanks,

Don