From: "Duane" <macastronomer@mac.com>

Date: November 14, 2007 1:43:21 PM MST

To: Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: Barlows and Mars


I agree that it's a bit much. But the seeing wasn't all that great but I was amazed at what I 

could do by sharpening (various pixel spreads) and then downsizing the image. It really 

did look better than images captured with a 2x sharpened and left native size.


I think it has to do with the fact that I can pull more like shades together. If I sharpen to 

the extent on either image, it becomes a mess of pixels. The larger image can be 

downsized and photoshop causes those pixels to disappear between the pixels of the new 

resolution.


Maybe I was up too late or maybe I'm just nuts, but I can't wait to try this when the sky 

gives me some stability.


In any case, I just bought a 3x TV barlow for a better focal ratio than I was capable of 

before. The 2x I was using was a mediocre Celestron with some apparent dust specs that 

I've never been able to clean. I was amazed I was able to get any kind of image with the 5x 

and compared to the original, I'm even more amazed.


Duane


--- In Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com, Alan Friedman <alan@...> wrote:


Hi Duane -


14 meter focal length? I didn't do the math, but I think you may be  

oversampling without benefit. I think oversampling in certain  

conditions does have the potential to record high contrast detail  

that might be missed at lower magnification - but it takes excellent  

seeing and a contrasty subject to yield any advantage. Otherwise you  

wind up with needlessly noisy data that defies accurate alignment  

when stacking. I've used my 10" mak at 11 meters, but I think my  

results at 7.5 meters are as good and perhaps better. Just my .02 -  

you might try it both ways and see if you find improvement in the  

image at high magnification.


steady skies,

Alan



On Nov 13, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Duane wrote:


Last night I tried my 5x Powermate for the first time in ages and  

found that on my

Celestron 11" f/10 that I could image much the same as I could with  

my Celestron 2x

barlow on my 8" LX200 f/10.


If I want more speed, I still resort to the smaller 2x and I am  

considering getting a 3x

barlow.


But I like the size I'm getting with the 5x. My images were pretty  

fuzzy after shooting, but

with the extra size I could sharpen and reduce the size and still  

end up with a pretty

decent image.


http://homepage.mac.com/deal/share/mars_11_13_07.jpg


Duane


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