From: Mark Gaffney <markgaffney@mac.com>

Date: May 17, 2008 9:17:12 PM MDT

To: Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Astro_IIDC] Re: Sorta OT:  Powerbook G4 won't startup


Sounds like you`ve saved on labour too (which is like $100 an hour here!). I`ve also had troubles where they forget to return an installation DVD or power supply (lose it in the workshop!) Couriers or round trip here is expensive too. There`s always something you haven`t backed up when these things happen! Mark.

On 18/05/2008, at 12:53 PM, Tim wrote:


I may see about recovering the data from it one of these days.  I can

reinstall all the software, and I didn't lose all that much stuff that

wasn't backed up.  But I did lose my first really successful Dark Sky

RGB image taken with my SBIG ST2000 and guided with the flea2 and

astro IIDC.  Beautifully round stars!!


And it's going to be a while before I get out under a dark sky again.


-Tim.


--- In Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com, Mark Gaffney <markgaffney@...> wrote:


I was going to say that Apple have a trade-in system where they

replace your HD with a re-furbished one then take yours for re-

furbishment for someone else.You get the replacement HD for cheaper

that way but it seems like you have it all under control. Sorry I

didn`t mention it earlier but then a new one will probably perform

better! Mark.

On 18/05/2008, at 12:30 PM, Tim wrote:


Well, it was the HD.  I bought a new one and am installing the OS on

it now.


-Tim.


--- In Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com, Perry Holcomb <hpholcomb@>

wrote:


Tim,


Good.  Put the HD back in, and try starting up with

the startup disk first.


The 'pooter can boot on the CD or DVD, but the HD can

still be bad.


You can use the Disk Utility on the startup disk to

first run Disk First Aid on the HD.


That should tell you something.


If Disk First Aid doesn't work, try a more

sophisticated disk tool, like Tech Tool or something

similar.


As a last resort, you can attempt to reformat

(erase!!) the HD with Disk First Aid.  If it works,

then you still have your HD but everything on it has

been overwritten.  You can reinstall the OS from the

start up disk(s) and go from there.


However, I'd be in the market for a new HD, unless you

plan to upgrade from the PowerBook G4 to something

newer.


Perry



--- Tim <tjp314@> wrote:


Okay guys, this is interesting...


I took out the hard drive, put a battery back in and

connected the

power adapter.  Now, when I turn the computer on, it

immediately goes

to the "folder with a question mark" icon and spins

up the startup

disk.  But it keeps spinning up the disk and

spinning it down again.

It never boots off it.


--- In Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com, Mark Gaffney

<markgaffney@> wrote:


One thing they didn`t supply for the Mac Mini

which it was recommended

be obtained at the local hardware was a "grouting"

knife for levering

the case open. I thought, "where am I going to lay

my hands on a pair

of anti-static gloves readily in outback

Australia"... and took it to

the local Apple centre! (90 kms distant). Use of

the gloves may have

been over-precautious though! Good Luck, Mark.

On 18/05/2008, at 6:01 AM, Tim wrote:


Well, I'm not afraid to take these things apart

- been doing so for 20

years now.


My wife had a "toilet seat" iBook that got a

broken LCD when Southwest

made her check her bag (and she forgot the

computer was in it!).  I

bought a new replacement that was a much nicer

screen.  I remember it

being kind of strange and complicated to swap

out, but I didn't have

any real trouble, just had to be careful of

where all the parts were.


-Tim.

--- In Astro_IIDC@yahoogroups.com, Mark Gaffney

<markgaffney@>

wrote:


Hi Tim, When I bought a new DL DVD burner for

mine it came with

tools,

instructions, everything but I baulked when

they talked about the

necessity for anti-static gloves etc. without

which you can damage

the

innards and handed it over to the technician.

Mark.

On 18/05/2008, at 5:48 AM, Milton Aupperle

wrote:


Hi Tim;


Another step by step guide for replacing the

drive is shown here..




http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac/PowerBook-G4-Al-15-Inch-1-1-5-GHz-

BT-1-1/HD-Replacement/54/9/


TTYL..


Milton Aupperle


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